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I was watching a domain in today's drops. It was registered at eNom.

At SnapNames it was listed until their last order time without any bids.

At eNom it had the complete eNom whois, but at some point in the last couple of hours they deleted it from their whois servers and only the Registry's whois data was showing. They probably do this the same with all their drops. So one question I have is at what time do eNom delete an expiring domain from their nameservers?

At NameJet, the domain disappeared from their auction listings about 2 hours before their last order time. This happened about the same time as the eNom whois changes, as best as I could tell.

So I thought, because there were no bids on SnapNames or NameJet, I was in good shape to have a shot at winning this domain with my Pheenix backorder :)

Low and behold. The domain was newly registered at eNom. The whois says

Registrant: WHOIS AGENT
Organization: PROFILE GROUP
Street: PMB # 365, 2711 CENTERVILLE ROAD, SUITE 300
City: WILMINGTON
State: DE
Postcode: 19808-1645
Phone: +1.4252144609
Fax: +1.4256960234

Now this is a fairly generic whois info. And it is suspicious to me that the domain disappeared from NameJet's listing a couple of hours before their normal auction time, and was then re-registered at the existing Registrar, eNom. Fair enough it dropped, since it has a new registration date. But it smacks of some collusion to me. Does anyone have any observations I may have overlooked, or have any idea who this registrant is?
 
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..Does anyone have any observations I may have overlooked, or have any idea who this registrant is?
Well, you may have just 'overlooked' the one constant, and the answer, in your scenerio - eNom. ":-o"
 
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If this was a regular drop you are referring to (not a prerelease) then I don't believe the registrar would have any control over when, how, and in what order it gets deleted, that is the registry (verisign's) territory. From all my experiences, once a name is in pending delete status (6 days until drop) no one except the registry (not registrar) has any control over what happens to it beyond that point. It seems likely that it was caught by enom again as part of the normal drop. Now what time exactly did it disappear from the namejet backorders.. 12pm EST like all the others, or was is it a different time?
 
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Well, you may have just 'overlooked' the one constant, and the answer, in your scenerio - eNom. ":-o"

Sorry. I don't understand what you are alluding to. Please elaborate.
 
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If this was a regular drop you are referring to (not a prerelease) then I don't believe the registrar would have any control over when, how, and in what order it gets deleted, that is the registry (verisign's) territory. From all my experiences, once a name is in pending delete status (6 days until drop) no one except the registry (not registrar) has any control over what happens to it beyond that point. It seems likely that it was caught by enom again as part of the normal drop. Now what time exactly did it disappear from the namejet backorders.. 12pm EST like all the others, or was is it a different time?

It would have been about that time when it disappeared. Time zones are not my strongest suit :) But what I recall was it there was under 2hrs left to Closing Time when it disappeared.

I agree with you about pending delete names and the drop process. But I don't understand how eNom caught it if it wasn't backordered at NameJet. Any idea who this registrant is?

It's almost as if somebody/eNom told NameJet, "we want this domain but we don't want to alert anybody's attention to this domain". And requested them to quietly delete it from their listing, before then placing a silent backorder on NameJet for the domain. That's the only scenario which I can see which fits these facts.
 
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Sorry. I don't understand what you are alluding to. Please elaborate.
I, and others, wouldn't put anything past enom of handling dropped domains 'ethically'. jmo.
 
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The address matches this company's US office address:

http://www.bassettwalkerinc.com/world-offices

"...a global leader in the procurement and sale of agricultural commodities."

@Domainace - Thanks

This doesn't look like a company which speculates in Domain Names, and the subject matter of the domain doesn't have anything to do with agricultural commodities (as far as I can tell).

The whois has again changed to eNom's usual Privacy Settings.
 
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So does anyone think anything was underhand here? If I'd realized what was about to happen, I would have backordered it on SnapNames.
 
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It def seems underhanded, but I don't about these things as much as you, stub...

The whois address is for a registered agent who handles correspondence for 100's or 1000's of corporations, not just Bassett Walker.

The whois phone # is for Bellevue, WA, which is where enom offices are.
 
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I maybe know a lot about the system, but you seem to know more than me about the details. So that makes us quits. However, from what you've just said, it seems to me to be more underhand than before.
 
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