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I came across a video today that was recently released from an event that is becoming very controversial. The feelings of disbelief are so strong that I shared it on FaceBook and now sharing it here to see what others think.
Wow..... LAPD kills homeless man with 5 or 6 shots while he's on the ground being held by other officers. There was a struggle, but shooting the man once, let alone 5 or 6 times (killing him) was very excessive and uncalled for. it's these types of clips that blow my mind and have me questioning the ones that are paid to serve and protect us sometimes. One shot may be an accidental discharge, but 5 or 6? really?
Watch the video: https://www.facebook.com/eric.lyon.399/posts/10155158125895276?pnref=story
KTLA5 reports: Officers were dispatched to the area of East Sixth Street and South San Pedro Street (map) about 11:36 a.m. after a report of an altercation between two people, said Officer Jack Richter, spokesman for the Los Angeles Police Department.

After the officers arrived a struggle ensued, during which police tazed a man, the LAPD said. The man was then shot by police, the department said. He was pronounced dead at the scene.
What are your thoughts? Could it of been handled differently?
 
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It's easy for 'armchair quarterbacks' to share their 'thoughts/opinions' on things like this, but until they put on the uniform and live the experience, they have no grasp of the reality that is happening in split second real time.

Posts like this just add more gas throwers than solutions or informed answers.
 
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It's pretty sickening, then there was the homeless man in NM that was murdered by cops, the 22 year old murdered in WalMart by cops, the 12 year old in Cleveland murdered by cops, "I can't breathe" Eric Garner etc. etc.

Did you know if your IQ is too high you can be rejected for that reason when applying to be a police officer?
 
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The NM incident exposed a very corrupt police dept - one of the cops who fired at they guy announced before he got there he was going to kill the homeless man

and here is the video of the walmart shooting, basically someone lied to 911 and got a guy killed for walking around with a pellet gun (still in package) at Walmart
 
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Yes it is possible to be too smart to be a
"peace officer" sadly.. I first learned about it many years ago when I read about this happening to a man in Minnesota
 
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Actually hawkeye, that was probably a false-flag event, care to go down this rabbit hole?
 
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We are living in a deliberately scripted psy-op. Yes, real events and tragedies happen, however, the media is used to divert and funnel collective attention towards what the criminal elite want us to see. Events are falsified (Gulf of Tonkin for example) then propagated. Others are actually orchestrated (Katrina) We are purposely steered away from news and info that is liberating, empowering and enlightening and force-fed the globalist propaganda in the papers and on the screens. Anyone new to false flag events should examine Operations Northwoods.

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I had an issue with an officer at the airport once, I made a formal complaint and ended up in mediation. It is a real eye opener to sit down with an officer and listen to them explain their actions. Basically, and this is what I was told straight from the horses mouth, cops are trained to protect themselves, not the public. He explained to me how training focuses upon how unstable any and every situation can be and the absolute number one concern is for thew officer to make it home to their family that night- again, this is essentially verbatim from the officer. He spoke of a technique he was taught, I forget the name now but it was something like, "synchronized threat response," which means that when someone is getting more aggressive, the officer MUST increase hie aggressiveness. I don't think the officer explained it very well, I don't think he understood it very well was actually the issue. By the end of the mediation he had blatantly showed himself to be a racist by saying I that he could tell I was, "not one of them, I could tell by your skin color," referring to being a terrorist.
Last thing of interest, almost the entire time he stared into my chest. After about an hour I called him out and said, "Look at you, you can't even look me in the eyes!"
His response was amazing. He explained to me that he had been trained to look at the chest because it their was ever to be an agressive action taken by me he would see it in my chest first..... Holy shit this guy thought he was Jason Bourne!

I live in Denver, terrible terrible cops here (amongst all the fantastic ones). There are constantly issues with police brutality and excessive force here- there was an incident recently where DPD shot and killed a 15 or 16 yr old girl who had stolen a car.

To protect and serve.... seriously?
 
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Video Breakdown
Positives: Larger cop realizes the advantage, drops his baton, gets hit in the face, and forcefully/rightfully subdues the suspect with his bare hands. Well done officer.

The sergeant quickly subdues the brittle looking person who grabs the baton using minimal force. Well done sergeant.

20 seconds into the video, I can't tell if that's a taser or a gun the cop is holding, but it looks like (also sounds, but I can't tell if that was other background noise) the cops tasered the man resisting. Granted there were four cops surrounded and mounted on the man, a taser would have been the maximum acceptable force here without putting other in danger with stray bullets, and of course the little threat the homeless man was showing given the position he was in.

Negatives: Six Cops around, and six shots fired at homeless man

I couldn't tell where the first shot came from, or weather or not it was a neglegent discharge. You can see the cop who was holding the feet with his gun drawn, believed to be the shooter. Rather than placing his weight on the back of the homeless mans kness (prevents the man from rolling and protects you from getting kicked) he tries to hold the mans flailing foot, and out of no where (begins shooting)

Man is shot at :27 seconds, and they don't check on the man until 1:47 seconds. Granted they just shot him 6 times, but one would think after realizing there isn't a threat to apply pressure, and a tourniquet if applicable to the wound until paramedics arrive.


With all this media reporting on police brutality and brutality against officers, it is easy for us armchair quarterbacks to express our opinions because we (non cops) can relate to the victim as if one day we find ourselves subdued by cops, we would want it performed correctly. Therefore, video and these debates are the best way to defend our futures. I'd like to believe that in these tragedies comes constructive critism, as police forces around the country can go over this footage acknowledge what was done correctly, and what wasn't. Just like in sports how athletes review film, cops need to do the same. They police us with guns, and we police them with video cameras.

It's nonsence to go on and on about the isolated incidents of two cops shot at point blank after a media outbreak of police brutality. It's simple we the majority, don't condone police brutality nor do we condone injustice against police officers.

My biggest gripe about this video was how it only took them 20 seconds to shoot the man and 4 times that amount to administer aid. Even in the controversial video from South Carolina last year when a man was shot after reaching in his car for his ID, the police office subdued the man, and once realizing the man was hit, immediately called for an ambulance and administered the aid he could until they arrived.
 
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Ah, the conspiracy types come out the woodwork.

Generally these types of cases involve a few of the following:
crime being committed
not listening to police officers
resisting arrest
coming at them with a weapon

This one had all 4. If you come at a police officer with a knife, you're probably going to get shot/killed. They tried the stun gun, didn't work.

There are actually other cases I have more a problem with. Remember seeing one mentally handicapped person with a knife with like 10 police officers surrounding him and they shot and killed him. Was thinking that was a time to use the stun gun, that department didn't have any. There is no excuse for that. Write some more speeding tickets or something, get some non-lethal force.

Forgot to add, saw something about firing more than once. That's generally a good practice. If you're at home and had a gun and somebody broke in and they had a gun, would you fire just once and hope that did the trick? This type of stuff happens fast, you're probably going to let off a few rounds. Some might miss, you might hit them and they can still be moving. If you're moving, you're still a threat. You have every right to defend yourself whether you're the police or just hanging out at home.
 
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It's easy for 'armchair quarterbacks' to share their 'thoughts/opinions' on things like this, but until they put on the uniform and live the experience, they have no grasp of the reality that is happening in split second real time.

Posts like this just add more gas throwers than solutions or informed answers.


They just MURDERED an innocent man and all you can say this^. Good grief. You must have no moral compass. (maybe you should become a thief & murderer, i mean cop)

Cops are pieces of SH*T, Worst scum on the planet.

Shame on you, and these murderers.
 
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They just MURDERED an innocent man and all you can say this^. Good grief. You must have no moral compass. (maybe you should become a thief & murderer, i mean cop)

Cops are pieces of SH*T, Worst scum on the planet.

Shame on you, and these murderers.

If somebody came at you with a knife, would your moral compass let them stab you to death? Does that sound like a reasonable plan?
 
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If somebody came at you with a knife, would your moral compass let them stab you to death? Does that sound like a reasonable plan?

It took 6 of these P.O.S. cops to beat this man, and then they tasered him, then they murdered him.

...... your point is ridiculous.
 
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Cops are pieces of SH*T, Worst scum on the planet.

Cheeses Christ man! Cops are actually meant to protect and serve. Our hatred, yes mine too - just nowhere near as yours, comes from either (a) a few bad officers who disrespect the uniform and (b) injust laws they swear to protect.

Besides (a) and (b), cops are great. They sign up for a dangerous job, and put their lives on the line every day. The legal system, however, has some fine tuning to do if they except civilians to respect the law the police are under oath to protect.
 
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It took 6 of these P.O.S. cops to beat this man, and then they tasered him, then they murdered him.

...... your point is ridiculous.

I guess you missed the part where he was resisting? or the taser not working? or him whipping out the knife? So answer me this. Somebody comes at you with a knife or gun and you have the means to protect yourself, what would you do?
 
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Update: Yahoo news is reporting the the homeless man reached for one of the officers guns while they all had him on the ground struggling & it was this act that lead to the shooting.
The man was a suspect in a robbery on Sunday and the officers were trying to take him into custody when he began fighting them, the Los Angeles Police Department said in a statement.

It said the man continued to resist, despite the officers attempting to use a Taser on him, and they fell to the sidewalk.

"While on the ground, the suspect and officers struggled over one of the officer's handguns and then an officer-involved shooting occurred," the department said.
Not sure where the knife rumor came into play. not seeing anything about a knife in this last news update. (or maybe the different incidents got mixed in translation posted in this thread). I may need to re-watch the video in slow motion to see if I can detect where he reached for a gun while on the ground.

Yahoo News Article: http://news.yahoo.com/video-shows-los-angeles-police-shooting-homeless-man-060031475.html
 
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They just MURDERED an innocent man and all you can say this
Oh, so you were there, and know 'exactly' the full circumstances of what happened? Please explain it to us in detail, because all we have is a 'one angle' cell phone video, and no 'up close' audio. Next time you're attacked with a knife, please tell and show us all how you 'passively' will and did defuse that situation to your 'liking'. Good Grief.
 
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Update: Yahoo news is reporting the the homeless man reached for one of the officers guns while they all had him on the ground struggling & it was this act that lead to the shooting.
The man was a suspect in a robbery on Sunday and the officers were trying to take him into custody when he began fighting them, the Los Angeles Police Department said in a statement.

It said the man continued to resist, despite the officers attempting to use a Taser on him, and they fell to the sidewalk.

"While on the ground, the suspect and officers struggled over one of the officer's handguns and then an officer-involved shooting occurred," the department said.
Not sure where the knife rumor came into play. not seeing anything about a knife in this last news update. (or maybe the different incidents got mixed in translation posted in this thread).

Yahoo News Article: http://news.yahoo.com/video-shows-los-angeles-police-shooting-homeless-man-060031475.html

"A Hollywood-area homeless man who was reportedly trying to take a shopping cart from a Sunset Boulevard store was shot and killed by police, who said he came at them with a knife. Officers responded to a disturbance call at the 99 Cents Only store late Sunday afternoon. The man was allegedly outside the store, carting a knife, police said. The officers tried to use a stun gun on him, but “he continued to come at the officers,” and they opened fire."

That's what was being reported when I saw the video yesterday. Going for an officer's gun is not a good idea either. Either one, you resist and if you have a weapon or they think you do, it's not usually going to turn out in your favor.
 
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I read what the police said this morning, didnt mention a knife, and they surely would if it was used on the cops.
 
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