.AM Successes? Values? Flops?

I wouldn't bother with this extension, you will only waste your money, just because keywords are available, doesnt mean they are available, ask yourself why noone has snapped them up??


Only reported sales I can find, not really worth regging as you can see

nyc.am 2,300 USD 2015-03-01 Heritage Auctions
tomorrow.am 3,000 USD 2014-02-02 Afternic
vn.am 2,475 USD 2014-01-08 Sedo
nine.am 1,349 USD 2013-11-13 Sedo
cl.am 2,385 USD 2012-09-12 Sedo
cl.am 1,500 USD 2012-08-22 Sedo
2.am 1,500 USD 2011-07-23 Sedo
poker.am 1,700 USD 2011-01-24 Sedo
webc.am 6,000 USD 2011-01-10 Sedo
casinos.am 1,000 USD 2011-01-10 Sedo
booking.am 8,000 USD 2011-01-06 Sedo
casinos.am 1,280 USD 2010-07-21 Sedo
poker.am 2,261 USD 2009-04-07 Sedo
cr.am 900 USD 2008-05-06 Sedo
lx.am 663 USD 2008-03-21 Sedo
ma.am 1,250 USD 2008-02-29 submitted
flowers.am 500 USD 2008-01-16 Sedo
audio.am 160 USD 2007-12-06 Sedo
law.am 950 USD 2007-02-28 Afternic

gilescoley said:

I wouldn't bother with this extension, you will only waste your money, just because keywords are available, doesnt mean they are available, ask yourself why noone has snapped them up??
Only reported sales I can find, not really worth regging as you can see

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Thanks, I really appreciate your taking the time to reply and to post some data. When I ask myself that question, I guess get a different answer that has always worked well for me, yet is often met with objections. When I see something that someone else hasn't taken advantage of, I see a possible opportunity. That makes me wonder if I can do it better. It may be that you are 100% right, but it may be that they haven't been snapped up because nobody saw a way to use them, or wanted to put the effort into or simply didn't want to pay the reg fee. I don't know for sure. One thing I did see in the history here was that the domains used to be $90 when the US dollar was weaker. Now it has fallen to $35. That may have played a factor in this domain not being as popular. It would be interesting to see the registration rate as a function of the strength of US dollars. I guess its another case of glass half full or half empty, which seems prevalent in domaining. As for the examples, I see those examples as well worth the effort but my bar for "worth the effort" may be lower than others. In fact, the results you posted are better than i would have expected.

.am is an option if you live in Armenia. Otherwise....

Applications for "too generic" domain names may be refused.

https://www.amnic.net/policy/

sdsinc said:

.am is an option if you live in Armenia. Otherwise....

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Otherwise what?

I think anyone can register them. I haven't done it but I got to the cart and it seemed like I could. I wanted to register wood.am. Also, I saw several with American addresses in Whois, so I don't think you have to live in Armenia.

"otherwise" its really not worth you wasting your money on these, just because a keyword is available, doesn't mean it worth anything, there are keywords available in country extensions that are a lot better than

Wood.am, can you think of a use for it, do you know the Armenian domain market? If not, who else would use wood.am for their business

Its just advice, its up to you in the end

cocaseco said:

Otherwise what?

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Otherwise they are only good for domain hacks.

gilescoley said:

If not, who else would use wood.am for their business

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You are right who would want Morning Wood

P.S. It was a joke. Though I wouldn't need to know anything about Armenian market to use this domain unless they have their own Internet for their domain?

Though I wouldn't need to know anything about Armenian market to use this domain unless they have their own Internet for their domain?

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You would need to know something about the Armenian "domain" market if you wanted to sell the domain, if not, you will keep renewing year after year and wasting money every year

You have consider other factors like how their registrars operate, can you speak Armenian, its always hard trying to sell a name to someone who cant speak your language etc etc...dont just register a name because you like the keyword, and ignore the extension. You have to think about how you will sell the name before you register it, are there any potential end-users?

Sorry, but I couldn't disagree more. I could register SuperBowl.am and market it game day morning traditions in America. That couldn't be any more American and less Armenian. And if it were a successful domain, I would look for an American buyer, not an Armenian one. the ccTLD doesn't limit the market in anyway as long as there are not geographical restrictions by the registrar. A perfect example is the .TO ccTLD, the domain for Tonga, yet it is very popular in Toronto. You don't have to know a single word or person in Armenia to use an am domain, or any other for that matter. Nobody is ignoring the extension, that's the whole point of a "hack".

I will agree that how the registrar acts could be a valid concern as their website is a bit hard to navigate and if I had problems I imagine talking to them would be a nightmare. But honestly, I have only very rarely ever needed to talk to my registrar. Not enough of an issue to stop me or most people. Do you know about the countries you have domains in like Arab emirates, South Africa, India or Germany? Its great if you do, but would you only use the domain in those countries, or would you use the WORLD wide web? Same with sales, would you only try to sell in those countries and ignore an American market for a well developed domain?

I still think you missed the whole point anyway. Maybe the Armenians don't get morning wood?

cocaseco said:

Sorry, but I couldn't disagree more. I could register SuperBowl.am and market it game day morning traditions in America.

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SuperBowl is TM, just saying :P

cocaseco said:

A perfect example is the .TO ccTLD, the domain for Tonga, yet it is very popular in Toronto.

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How popular exactly ?

For the purpose of resale it's best to stay away from exotic extensions. They just don't sell like .com.

sdsinc said:

SuperBowl is TM, just saying :P

How popular exactly ?

For the purpose of resale it's best to stay away from exotic extensions. They just don't sell like .com.

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Not in Armenia lol. It was an example of course.

I agree on many exotic domains, but there is no list of what is exotic and what is not. So focus on development and remove the resale unknown. I think their best use is generally a hack and that's not my market so take that for what it is. Does anything sell like a .com? of course not, so that's not a good standard. How popular I don't know how to quantify. There was a guy on here recently who was from there Toronto and he said they are common. I do know that TO is often used as an abbreviation for Toronto, so it would seem to make sense. Also, as the 4th largest city in North America, I would think domain competition is fierce, but I dont really know first hand.

Sorry, but I couldn't disagree more. I could register SuperBowl.am and market it game day morning traditions in America. That couldn't be any more American and less Armenian. And if it were a successful domain, I would look for an American buyer, not an Armenian one. the ccTLD doesn't limit the market inanyway as long as there are not geographical restrictions by the registrar. A perfect example is the .TO ccTLD, the domain for Tonga, yet it is very popular in Toronto. You don't have to know a single word or person in Armenia to use an am domain, or any other for that matter. Nobody is ignoring the extension, that's the whole point of a "hack".

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ok, good luck with that, let me know how you go?

Do you know about the countries you have domains in like Arab emirates, South Africa, India or Germany?

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Yes I do actually, and I have dealt with end-user and registrars from these countries and 99% can speak english as well so there are no issues. I have also studied the domain markets in those countries and spoken to domainers who are from those countries over the years to get a better insight into what businesses prefer in those countries

Would you only use the domain in those countries, or would you use the WORLD wide web? Same with sales, would you only try to sell in those countries and ignore an American market for a well developed domain?

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Absolutely I would, I have never sold a .IN, .AE, .CO.ZA, .DE or any other extension to a US company, I sell .AE to Emirates companies, I sell .IN to Indian companies and .DE to German companies, its their country extension and that is what they primarily use. I am from South Africa and lived there for 28 years so I know the market well

Try and sell a Emirates, South African or German ext name to a US company and see what replies you get, it wont be positive, unless it happens to be a company with offices in that country and then they often own the name anyway or there are trademark issues

You are missing the point, as well as the opportunity. Thanks for playing though.

Apparently transferring .am names to a new owner is a pain in the arse.. Some kind of fee and form needs to go to the registry. Maybe someone with a bit more experience can confirm?

I don't think that's the biggest problem. The process may be a bit bureaucratic, but some ccTLDs are worse, in fact some do not allow speculative regs at all.
The biggest problem is finding a buyer.

sdsinc said:

The biggest problem is finding a buyer.

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Isn't that always the case?

Yes, but the more exotic the TLD, the more difficult.

I sold .am domain for nearly 1k few years back to a US company. To transfer the domain I had to type up a letter of transfer request and email it along with my ID. Nothing too complicated really and they do speak English perfectly.

Where did you find them at $35? I thought these run $80 - $100 for renewals, which is what makes the extension difficult for investors.

JRayers said:

Where did you find them at $35? I thought these run $80 - $100 for renewals, which is what makes the extension difficult for investors.

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@JRayers https://www.abcdomain.am/en/domain/index.html

bet.AM sold for $2,500 at Sedo

James Rayers said:

Where did you find them at $35? I thought these run $80 - $100 for renewals, which is what makes the extension difficult for investors.

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https://tld-list.com/tld/am