What the f*ck is wrong with this industry?

Human nature I suppose. Same things happen in every industry.

Asfas1000 said:

Human nature I suppose. Same things happen in every industry.

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You're right it is human nature but when it happens in other industries it's expected based on the volume of the industry. This industry is to small to consistently have a large public figure or company being in the limelight for wrong doing. Imagine all the things we never hear about because it's not being done by some DotComGod public figure.

hookbox said:

You're right it is human nature but when it happens in other industries it's expected based on the volume of the industry. This industry is to small to consistently have a large public figure or company being in the limelight for wrong doing. Imagine all the things we never hear about because it's not being done by some DotComGod public figure.

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It's an industry that has to do 99.9% about money with absolutely no control (meaning, no overseer)... what did you expect?

and to answer Asfas post... no, it definitely *does not* happen to every industry, especially in that magnitude

This industry is filled with scumbags. Yesterday I had over $2,000 worth of charges to my bank account. One being an airline ticket for an airline in India. I believe the person who bought this ticket is from a scumbag from India that I met right here on Namepros. I call him my stalker and have reported him many times to Eric Lyon and staff. He emails my whois, calls the contact number, harasses me through PM etc….. I don't know for sure but it is way to much of a coincidence after I get a threat from him the same day right here on Namepros!!!

They say around 4% of population is conscienceless, remorseless psychopaths.
That's 39,000 members of NP...
So yeah - some people suck and will ruin the fun for the rest of us...

hookbox said:

Honestly I'm getting sick of being associated with Domaining. One black cloud after another. Every time I turn around another scandal is occurring in this industry.

If the Snapnames Halvarez scandal isn't enough
http://www.thedomains.com/2009/11/0...hings-that-came-out-of-the-snapnames-scandal/

then we can talk about Bob Parsons shooting elephants
http://mashable.com/2011/03/31/bob-parsons-elephant-story/#mipS02pncSqf

How about the Network Solutions story?
http://techcrunch.com/2008/01/10/ne...uestionable-tactic-to-sell-more-domain-names/

How about the story of Toby Clements.
http://domainshane.com/time-domains-selling-left-right-toby-clements-vanishes/

How about the Flippa story?
https://www.namepros.com/threads/so-you-thought-flippa-was-shady.879930/

Low and behold we have another with Adam Dicker.
https://www.namepros.com/threads/is-adam-dicker-a-criminal-you-decide.883579/

What the f*ck is wrong with this industry?

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And I'm sure there is more to come.

Totally forgot about the original Adam Dicker story.

http://www.wired.com/2008/06/godaddy-vp-caug/

I'm sure there are tons of other stories so add them if you would like.

GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!

Every industry has "bad" things about it. It's unfortunate.

When I read stuff like this, I feel like this.

Don't like the bad news?
Then do not do domaining at all.
Stick to facebook.
hahahhahaa

The domain industry is close in spirit to the "information marketing" industry. While there is some excellent information shared in IM forums and some really good people with legit credentials, there are also a lot of naive followers thinking that there is a "secret" that if they only "knew," they would become rich too. Some of the IMers explain that the secret is really just hard, smart, work. Some of them look at the sea of naive followers and give hem their "secret" . . . for $1297.

The domain industry is similar. There are some really good people in it - honest, hard-working, trustworthy. There are also some not so good people in it - or people that lose their way - seduce by money or fame or power. Overall, I would say the industry is a little more f*** than most, but it is a new industry and this is to be expected. All new technologies and industries are the wild west until time, regulation, and customer expectations settle things down.

Don't fret Andrew. It's ok. Keep doing what you are doing, but pay close attention to where and who you spend your time and money with. And always keep your integrity in tact. Because when things get tough(not IF, but WHEN), that is the only thing that they can't take away from you.

I dont comment much, if at all, but I do listen to your Podcast every week. thanks.

I agree hookbox and I think there is much more we haven't seen yet unfortunately.
If you mix human nature ( greed etc ) with a totally unregulated "industry" ( can we even call it this way? bah.. ) then shake you will create an explosive mixture...

I believe there are serious and trustworthy professional domainers but sometimes they get buried among the crap which is very unfortunate.
I am all for more regulations but I'll be honest and say I have no idea about how we can solve the apparently huge issues we are seeing day in day out.

If we talk about the forum I think stricter measures could be taken towards scammers, people who do not honour their transactions etc, but that's not up to me to decide.

I guarantee that if you compiled every story like this in the tech industry, finance industry, insurance industry, or any other mature industry, the list would be 100x larger.

It's unfair to categorize an entire industry based on poor decisions made by a select few.

Joseph Green said:

I guarantee that if you compiled every story like this in the tech industry, finance industry, insurance industry, or any other mature industry, the list would be 100x larger.

It's unfair to categorize an entire industry based on poor decisions made by a select few.

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You're right the list would be 100X larger because that industry is 100X larger.

hookbox said:

You're right the list would be 100X larger because that industry is 100X larger.

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Which proves my point, right? It happens everywhere, and it doesn't define an industry.

There are good apples and bad. I prefer to focus on the good.

hookbox said:

Honestly I'm getting sick of being associated with Domaining. One black cloud after another. Every time I turn around another scandal is occurring in this industry.

If the Snapnames Halvarez scandal isn't enough
http://www.thedomains.com/2009/11/0...hings-that-came-out-of-the-snapnames-scandal/

then we can talk about Bob Parsons shooting elephants
http://mashable.com/2011/03/31/bob-parsons-elephant-story/#mipS02pncSqf

How about the Network Solutions story?
http://techcrunch.com/2008/01/10/ne...uestionable-tactic-to-sell-more-domain-names/

How about the story of Toby Clements.
http://domainshane.com/time-domains-selling-left-right-toby-clements-vanishes/

How about the Flippa story?
https://www.namepros.com/threads/so-you-thought-flippa-was-shady.879930/

Low and behold we have another with Adam Dicker.
https://www.namepros.com/threads/is-adam-dicker-a-criminal-you-decide.883579/

What the f*ck is wrong with this industry?

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so you giving up domaining?
send me your domain list
I am buying dropping domains

Not sure if shooting elephants qualifies for this list, i would rather hang out with domainers than secondhand car salesmen. Money=Power=Corruption ......quite simple really and no surprises

frank-germany said:

so you giving up domaining?
send me your domain list
I am buying dropping domains

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You couldn't afford it.

Pros or well known people in this industry aside, involved in recant scandals, I am not surprised there is so much scuming and general s*it going around..

IMO
Most newbies arrive with high hopes, that every single one of their newly reged (mostly proper crap) names are worth huge money. When numbers doesn't add up and reality hits, some choose to take what seems like 'easy path' to decant money for them at the time.. Also some people suddenly seem to get awful lot more comfortable with scuming and taking other people money, when they hiding behind the screen. Yet when you'll meet some of them in real life, they'll run at first sight of you :D P*ssies is what I call them..

hookbox said:

You couldn't afford it.

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you are right
I can afford only good domain

Oh come on guys! Do we REALLY have to turn every single thread into an argument???? jee

photonmymind said:

Oh come on guys! Do we REALLY have to turn every single thread into an argument???? jee

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LOL. I agree.

We need DOMAIN UNION to protect our rights vs all scum of earth.Next time godaddy steals your domains, ask yourself if I wish there is a DOMAIN UNION>