ccTLD Domain Hack pricing

Alice Wonder Miscreations · Apr 10, 2016

Hi all - my understanding is that .ky is now allowing registrations from outside Cayman Islands.

I kind of want kin.ky - it is taken but looks like it is parked.

I would use it as a URL shortening service for a project I'm working on, a project that may never come to completion (still need some VC) and I already own a NNNN.us that I can use for the same purpose - so it's not like I would be willing to sell my first born to afford it.

But kin.ky is definitely a much better name.

I'm kind of curious as to what thoughts are what a fairish value for that domain might be, if I was to make an offer?

DNScholar · Apr 30, 2016

I see only one sale mobile.ky for $4500
Kin.Ky Domain is surely looking better. For proper appraisal put the domain at Appraisal section here at namePros.

Jon B · May 3, 2016

My hesitation about this domain is that "ky" does not end words well. The hacks that can be created are low value words in and of themselves. The registration fee is slightly too high.

KY can work for Kentucky I guess....a real hotbed of innovation.

doubleU · May 3, 2016

Kin.ky should set you back low-mid $x,xxx

Here's a few more attractive .ky hacks like Whis.ky - Luc.ky - Fun.ky - Pic.ky - Hon.ky

Kate · May 3, 2016

First of all, as with any ccTLD: read the rules and make sure you understand them. Some TLDs do not allow speculative registrations, some do not allow adult etc. Make sure you get acquainted with the transfer process. If you have a buyer but you are unable to hand over the domain, you risk botching the sale.

Next consider the risk/reward ratio: if the TLD is priced high, not well-known outside its natural market what are the odds you will make sales, especially if they are domain hacks ?
Personally I would rather buy domains that make sense for the local market. That takes research.
It's not a big market so you have to pick great domains, not average stuff. This could be an opportunity though. I like to explore growing ccTLDs.
But ccTLDs are always specialized markets. What works in .com may not work in ccTLD, especially when the local lingo is not English...

deez007 · May 3, 2016

I think if your business name/model is Kin.ky and you want to use it as a URL shortner then from a branding point of view kin.ky would be awesome. The only thing is that you would need to decide if spending $x,xxx to acquire the domain is worth it, would it be more beneficial to spend the same $x,xxx on marketing the business instead? I guess it could even be a good idea to simply make a blind offer for like $500 and if the seller is happy then cool, if not then decide on what would be more beneficial to the business, a brandable domain or spending that money on marketing.

Alice Wonder Miscreations · May 3, 2016

deez007 said:
I think if your business name/model is Kin.ky and you want to use it as a URL shortner then from a branding point of view kin.ky would be awesome. The only thing is that you would need to decide if spending $x,xxx to acquire the domain is worth it, would it be more beneficial to spend the same $x,xxx on marketing the business instead? I guess it could even be a good idea to simply make a blind offer for like $500 and if the seller is happy then cool, if not then decide on what would be more beneficial to the business, a brandable domain or spending that money on marketing.

Yes, an in-house url shortening service is nice to have because you can prevent user tracking (almost all the generic ones use tracking cookies) and you can make custom shortened links for very common links.

But the price is most certainly a concern.

Alice Wonder Miscreations · May 3, 2016

Kate said:
First of all, as with any ccTLD: read the rules and make sure you understand them. Some TLDs do not allow speculative registrations, some do not allow adult etc.

Yes, .io doesn't allow adult and .ly doesn't allow anything that breaks islamic law.

That's why the one I currently have is on .us - since it is owned by US government, there is free speech protection to content. The constitution prevents the US government from forbidding most speech.

disaac81 · May 3, 2016

Kate said:
First of all, as with any ccTLD: read the rules and make sure you understand them. Some TLDs do not allow speculative registrations, some do not allow adult etc. Make sure you get acquainted with the transfer process. If you have a buyer but you are unable to hand over the domain, you risk botching the sale.

Next consider the risk/reward ratio: if the TLD is priced high, not well-known outside its natural market what are the odds you will make sales, especially if they are domain hacks ?
Personally I would rather buy domains that make sense for the local market. That takes research.
It's not a big market so you have to pick great domains, not average stuff. This could be an opportunity though. I like to explore growing ccTLDs.
But ccTLDs are always specialized markets. What works in .com may not work in ccTLD, especially when the local lingo is not English...

Add this in with the fact that the company behind the "hack cctld name" might not offer anything to that country, then you have a dead fish in the water. By using a cctld as the main domain for the company, when that company has nothing to do with that country is going to cause it issues in it's global footprint (ie, "getting found").

aramyus · May 4, 2016

Kate said:
Personally I would rather buy domains that make sense for the local market. That takes research

Could you explicit this idea ?

Kate · May 4, 2016

aramyus said:
Could you explicit this idea ?

The idea is simple: in general ccTLDs are mostly used in the country of origin, by local end users. There are some exceptions, for instance repurposed ccTLDs like .tv .cc .io .me etc that are used globally, by people who have no connection to the host country.

So if you buy good keywords you have more possibilities to sell to local end users, or at least you can develop them. Domain hacks are more difficult to sell. So I would rather own jobs.ky than kin.ky for example.

aramyus · May 4, 2016

Kate said:
The idea is simple: in general ccTLDs are mostly used in the country of origin, by local end users. There are some exceptions, for instance repurposed ccTLDs like .tv .cc .io .me etc that are used globally, by people who have no connection to the host country.

So if you buy good keywords you have more possibilities to sell to local end users, or at least you can develop them. Domain hacks are more difficult to sell. So I would rather own jobs.ky than kin.ky for example.

Thanks for the explanations.

I wonder if many domains meet this criteria.

For example, I am French and our country code is .fr. I can't think of any french word that ends with fr (not really pronounceable). The same applies for many countries.

ajkula · May 4, 2016

Kate said:
The idea is simple: in general ccTLDs are mostly used in the country of origin, by local end users. There are some exceptions, for instance repurposed ccTLDs like .tv .cc .io .me etc that are used globally, by people who have no connection to the host country.

So if you buy good keywords you have more possibilities to sell to local end users, or at least you can develop them. Domain hacks are more difficult to sell. So I would rather own jobs.ky than kin.ky for example.

I agree with Kate. I am from Serbia and I have 8 .rs domains in Serbian language (eg. moj.rs ("moj" means "my" in English etc.) and only one domain hack webmaste.rs. I got only one offer for several years for my IMHO not so bad domain hack, but much more offers to my Serbian premium domains .rs.

robert widener · Mar 2, 2017

doubleU said:
Kin.ky should set you back low-mid $x,xxx

Here's a few more attractive .ky hacks like Whis.ky - Luc.ky - Fun.ky - Pic.ky - Hon.ky

what makes these hacks attractive ? , you really cant do anything with them ... except maybe whisky . I find it funny how spend their hard earned dollars on really stupid hacks , much less just plain dumb domains in general ,lol. but like I always say , it's your money , you made it & you can spend it on anything you like . if your going to spend money on a domain , at least have it make some sense or have some possible resale value if you plan on flipping it . if on the other hand you just like collecting hacks , I say spend away .

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