advice Where to list domain with optional website for sale on Namepros?

MackieMesser · Sep 21, 2016

Actually I have more questions than the title tells:

1. Selling domain with website as option:

I intend to sell a *.today domain that I registered 2 years ago. I thought to offer the option to purchase the website that was created also 2 years ago for that domain (with traffic).

I couldn't find a clear answer where exactly in the forum's marketplace I could offer this (domain +optional website) and I thought it might be of interest to others.

Does it belong to "Websites for sale" or rather in the domain section? I mainly would like to sell the domain, but if someone is interested, he/she could also have the website with its content for a very small additional price.

I personally would put it under the domain section with the option to buy the website for a fixed price.

2. Payment method:

Despite reading several threads regarding payment methods, I'm still not sure what payment method I would use for that purpose here.

I've used escrow /com once for a domain sale, but I remember that the fees where quite high so that it necessarily doesn't make sense to use it for "small" amounts (maybe below $ 500). [A side note: In my Escrow account it now says that the buyer paid the fee, but I'm sure that I did that. Apparently now I can't see afterwards how much the fee actually was.]

Paypal seems to bear the risk that one can get easier scammed by the buyer (chargeback), but is very practical and common. I've never received/ordered money via PayPal. In domain sales I assume, one would/should use the send an invoice function and define terms and conditions there (=no chargeback allowed; so no additional contract would be necessary)?

Glad for any advice or best practice tips. Thanks.

MackieMesser · Sep 22, 2016

Anyone got some advice on this?

aramyus · Sep 22, 2016

Regarding payment, I am not aware that paypal has an option 'chargeback forbiden'. On the contrary, paypal's policy is (or was) that anyone asking for chargeback for whatever reason will win his case unless you can prove a physical shipment took place.

So, due dilligence on the reputation of the buyer is essential

I've read a work around, but I've never tried it: In addition to an email, send a CD with the access code so as to have a proof of shipment (create a new registrar account and send the access code to the registrar).

In many cases, ebay does not read the emails and complaints (they just send automated answers). With this workaround, your buyer will have a hard time to win a complaint.

Jman92 · Sep 22, 2016

aramyus said:
Regarding payment, I am not aware that paypal has an option 'chargeback forbiden'. On the contrary, paypal's policy is (or was) that anyone asking for chargeback for whatever reason will win his case unless you can prove a physical shipment took place.

I think he is talking about including a clause disallowing charge backs in the TOS of the invoice the seller sends to the buyer. So when PayPal sees that clause in the TOS, it will hold the buyer accountable rather than charging the seller. Probably the safest of using PayPal for domaining purposes.

aramyus · Sep 22, 2016

The problem is that paypal has one of the worst customer service and they will not even read your emails unless there is proven fraud or fraud attempt. And their T&E more or less say that they can do anything they want in case of litigation.

MackieMesser · Sep 22, 2016

Jman92 said:
I think he is talking about including a clause disallowing charge backs in the TOS of the invoice the seller sends to the buyer. So when PayPal sees that clause in the TOS, it will hold the buyer accountable rather than charging the seller. Probably the safest of using PayPal for domaining purposes.

@aramyus @Jman92 Thanks for the replies.

Yeah that's what I mean (what Jman92 answered above).

aramyus said:
The problem is that paypal has one of the worst customer service and they will not even read your emails unless there is proven fraud or fraud attempt. And their T&E more or less say that they can do anything they want in case of litigation.

Why would one use Paypal then? Having a statement in the TOS should seem to have some weight, can't be that useless?

On the other hand, in every sale there needs to be a basic level of trust between buyer and seller. You can get screwed and scammed in every kind of deal.

Jman92 · Sep 22, 2016

Concerning your fist question, PM Eric Lyon or one the member service staff, I am sure they can answer your question. Honestly, Namepros is the not a place to sell websites. You might get something for the domain name but most people here are not interested in websites. If you want to get the full value of your website, I would recommend flippa. Good luck!

MackieMesser · Sep 22, 2016

Jman92 said:
Concerning your fist question, PM Eric Lyon or one the member service staff, I am sure they can answer your question. Honestly, Namepros is the not a place to sell websites. You might get something for the domain name but most people here are not interested in websites. If you want to get the full value of your website, I would recommend flippa. Good luck!

Thanks. I'll do that. Also I will post the answer here for others that might have the same question. The website is just an option I do not really need to sell it.

aramyus · Sep 22, 2016

MackieMesser said:
Why would one use Paypal then? Having a statement in the TOS should seem to have some weight, can't be that useless?

Well, the problem is that paypal is not a bank and they are not subject to the bank regulations. I have no doubt on their honesty, but in case of problem, in my experience, they let buyer and seller agree together. They won't read your emails nor interfere in the negotations. There are two notable exceptions: when they suspect fraud or when the seller can provide proof of shipment. In your case, it would (probably) not be fraud, just disagreement.

Why do people use paypal ? because it's convenient and it's perfectly fine for small transactions (what they were designed for). I recommend anyone to not use paypal for large payments and never use paypal for a strategic part of your business.

MackieMesser · Sep 23, 2016

aramyus said:
Well, the problem is that paypal is not a bank and they are not subject to the bank regulations. I have no doubt on their honesty, but in case of problem, in my experience, they let buyer and seller agree together. They won't read your emails nor interfere in the negotations. There are two notable exceptions: when they suspect fraud or when the seller can provide proof of shipment. In your case, it would (probably) not be fraud, just disagreement.

Why do people use paypal ? because it's convenient and it's perfectly fine for small transactions (what they were designed for). I recommend anyone to not use paypal for large payments and never use paypal for a strategic part of your business.

Yeah, there doesn't seem to exist a bulletproof variant at least not under a certain sale price.

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