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Discussion in 'Link Development' started by jasontn, Nov 25, 2016.

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    Of course, they're only free in the sense you're not paying an upfront fee. In other words, you would have to develop your web 2.0 website which might require money and/or work. That would be how they could possibly be effective SEO tools.

    Therefore, a quick search for a list of such websites is worth the time.
     
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    Web_Shark Greenhorn

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    The general rule (with some exceptions) is that free means low to zero traffic. You wont get clients doing this, cos noone will ever visit a blog or article site to locate a directory where a biz is listed. People go to search engines to find directories, its how this works.

    People don't need blogs or article sites anymore - they simply use their own websites to write content, keeping it for them to rank for.

    Besides its only spammers that still believe they'll be found on blogs or article banks - hasn't it occurred to the spammers yet that all they are promoting to is other like-minded spammers looking for a free link lol.

    So its spammers promoting to each other.... Any real businesses wont want to attract spammers as its the wrong target market, which why you get few real businesses using blogs or paying for b2b general directories - as their unfocussed resources eg: not a good client match up.

    Everyone uses niche sites now like:

    Niche directories
    Niche Booking sites
    Specialist engines

    these are the main areas of specialist search now - and its big, it outweighs the old search due to it being direct and faster way to reach the customer, with email systems that collect each sign-up/booking, collect the cash first, then deliver the service, or display results to the services quicker, saving time for the searcher.
     
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    jasontn Well-Known Member

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    Well, actually search engines don't really know that, or at least, they cannot take that into consideration. In other words, the whole scene isn't a form of shady SEO because a high-quality website is what it is despite the motive of the creator.

    Perhaps, though, a bunch of low-quality web 2.0 websites could be seen as some sort of SEO scam, and they are.
     
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    Web_Shark Greenhorn

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    Actually, with a simple Content Management System, yes - they can tell. We own both a directory and bot-driven search engine and we catch SEO agents (spammers) every day, 365 a year.

    Also the whole SEO sector (minus maybe 0.5%) is the biggest scam going. You see it mostly comes from India and Pakistan, some from China - but its a massive scam for sure. We catch the agencies by Internet Protocol number, then trace them to their local address, we end up prosecuting their clients in Court.

    I'm sure if my national company can do this, then others can too - its not difficult.
     
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    degreubiwa Banned

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    Who this person is and is he saying that link building is a scam now?
     
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    Unfortunately, you need to understand what Link building is beyond it being a basic weblink placement.

    Off-site SEO (link building) is a totally unregulated sector, any fool can set themselves up as a 'pro link builder' and all it is, is

    "The unauthorised, freeloading placement of weblinks on someone else's web property" - forget the transaction and
    so-called negotiation lies, that's all sales talk from the low-lifes who do this snake oil stuff, to make the uneducated
    assume they must be the best experts alive.

    For starters nearly all weblinks are now stolen, since link exchanging has been dead for years. The web space on publishers sites is stolen for brief periods of time
    eg: links are usually placed on found blogs and directories, and stay placed from 1 week to 2 months, depending on how fast the owners can delete them
    from their properties. So why are links stolen?

    This is so obvious - stolen links leads to search engine higher positioning and for the traffic benefit from those sites. The blogs/directories know the tricks used
    by SEO agencies and with Content Management Systems have now defeated the free ride forever. These days there are so few sites willing to let a bunch of
    strangers onto their property, the industry is pointless.

    As far as negotiation goes, there never are negotiations, its lies. Why lies? Ok, you approach any million traffic turnover site, ask for a free link
    and see where it gets you. To prove the point, we asked both MSN and Yell.com for a free weblink - one said No, the other guy laughed in my face.

    The Seo agents/freelancers sector is built on huge fees and low returns, you will hear more about the failures than the successes guaranteed. This is
    due to too many scammers selling 500 links for $200 that doesn't work, as the publishers which are spammed in the hundreds, are low traffic sites, so
    it must fail. The publishers don't directly get paid, because they use open forms that have to allow registration of weblinks, so all the SEO has to do is hunt down these sites and submit the client/s - and no payment is ever made, infact the client won't know everything that goes on, all the client knows is they've hired a service to place them in 500 spots for $200 - so the client is guilty, knowing they hired such a service and paid for it.

    Its scam and spam.
     
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    Why would you waste money developing web 2.0 websites? The money would be better spent developing your own site.
     
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    Why yes he is. Link Building in the modern sense has lost all credibility. Old School linking between people who genuinely respect each other will always have a role to play. There's a chasm between the two.

    What we're seeing here is Web 2.0 link building to boost the reputation of an individual. I've only once managed to get through to the client but I've tried with many others. I don't know what is more disturbing - Identity theft or that people are actually paying to have their names sullied.

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    Perhaps overkill on Web 2.0 would be a waste of time. It might be considered some sort of a blog network.
     
    jasontn, Dec 10, 2016 IP